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From: Jack Sarfatti Date: 07/22/05 22:57:52 To: Doc Savage Subject: *** SPAM *** Allegations of Russian KGB Physics Disinformation Operations in Cold War & Today
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
It is curious that on both sides during Cold War and even now the SAME people doing both paranormal and UFO work - including me and Puthoff & Co. Shipov visited us several times in San Francisco BTW. My position here is to be objective and not jump any any conclusion pro or con on the information below.
There is nothing intrinsically unscientific about a torsion field. Whether it exists or not or propagates is, of course, empirical.
The torsion field comes from locally gauging the Lorentz group SO (1,3). Einstein's gravity field comes from locally gauging the translation group T4. One of our guys at the ISSO Vigier Torsion Workshop 2000 Richard Hammond from Fargo says he got some results for propagating torsion waves for communication working on a US Navy contract. No doubt that the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1989 led to some of the flaky stuff mentioned at the end of the article below sent to me from Moscow presumably by a former if not active Russian Federation Intelligence Agent?
On Jul 22, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Alexander Konkretny wrote:
Translated into English is an article by Evgeny Alexandrov, an outstanding Russian physicist and the Russian Academy of Sciences Academician who was the first to call Akimov's torsion fields projects pseudoscientific fraud in 1991.
The article throws light on the very beginning of the Russian torsion field fraud initiated by Russian charlatans A.E.Akimov and G.I.Shipov.
(See, BTW, Alexandrov's citation index and compare it with that of the charlatans Akimov and Shipov.) Acad. E.B.Alexandrov may be reached at: ealex@online.ru Below is an excerpt. Full text in English here:
http://humanism.al.ru/en/articles.phtml?num=000023
"The story of this swindle evidently dates back to the 1960s. It was based on the idea of "telepathy", which was very fashionable at the end of the 1950s when Khrushchev's political "thaw" engendered a renaissance of interest in "mediumism" or, in the terminology of the time, "parapsychology". Then information came to our "special services" about American attempts (invariably fruitless) to establish telepathic communications with submarines. Attempts at "thought" transmission of a binary message from a basement in the Lyubyanka to a "psychic recipient" on the outskirts of Moscow were undertaken. The work was directed by A. Ye. Akimov, who made his contribution to this task - he reportedly subjected the "psychic inducer" to the additional influence of a "new physical field" called "spinor". According to a statement by Akimov this field formed a "string" channel and transmitted mental information without attenuation with distance and without absorption by the intervening environment. Akimov announced the discovery of the ideal communications, point-to-point, that is, not subject to intercept, all-penetrating, unrestricted, and, as was stated later, instantaneous [10, 11, 12]. Official departmental reports did not confirm this achievement, which did not hinder the further development of the subject of "spinor" fields, which led in 1987 to a secret government decree about all possible development of "spinor" technologies and "bioenergy"9. Hundreds of people from dozens of defense industry establishments and even some academic institutes were enlisted in this work. This work became public at the beginning of 1991 and was subjected to a review by the USSR Academy of Sciences and the Science Commission of the Supreme Soviet after which the "Center of Nontraditional Technologies" of the State Committee on Science and Technology was immediately disbanded. Having lost his post, Akimov immediately found his place in the new world of "venture" enterprises having kept touch with and having the support of "special structures". Secrecy has been forgotten since that time and there began a period of intensive attempts to enter the marketplace with wondrous generators of "torsion" (the same as "spinor" and "microlepton" - the terminology has mutated constantly) either fields or radiation. Inasmuch as not one of the dozens of widely-advertised promises in the field of defense or civilian technology has ever been fulfilled (or could be fulfilled in view of the absence of these all-powerful fields!), then only one guaranteed sector of the market was left for Akimov's company without implying objective proof of the reality of these fields - healing. Rumors began to spread through the mass media, including the respectable Izvestiya (see, for example, the author's response about this in the Feedback section on 26.09.97), about a powerful "psychotronic" weapon developed in the bowels of the old KGB on the basis of these same fields, a weapon which could, if desired, be turned to good. An advertisement for "torsion generators" appeared on the Internet which alleviate practically any ailment for a reasonable price - $30 for any Russian and a hundred for foreigners. (We note in passing that the usefulness of these crappy "generators" is the same as for any other amulets. So that's how things stand with the harm; being objectively useless they offer people hope and keep them from going to doctors)"
A.K.
From: Jack Sarfatti Date: 08/10/05 22:14:53 To: Colin Bennett Subject: Fwd: Colonel Phillip Corso's Notes
Corrected draft
Begin forwarded message:
> > Subject: Fwd: Colonel Phillip Corso's Notes > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > >> >> Subject: Colonel Phillip Corso's Notes >> >> >> Yes I understand that. :-) >> >> I am very interested in Colonel Corso's original notes. Please >> tell his son. I am the only guy on the planet that can really >> decode their deep meaning. >> >> The basic UFO physics is summarized in http://qedcorp.com/APS/ >> zpf2005.pdf >> >> On Aug 10, 2005, at 1:44 PM, ANTIGRAY@cs.com wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Jack, >>> Thank you for clarifying the situation. I promise you in the >>> future I won't assume you are doing anything fancy and I won't >>> make statements about it unless it comes from your lips. I just >>> misunderstood what you had written about reverse engineering. I >>> don't knowingly put words in people's mouths. I hear it is >>> unsanitary. >>> I am very sorry for any inconvenience I caused you. I have the >>> utmost respect for you and feel bad about it.
>>> Speaking of Col. Corso, after he died a few years ago, I spoke >>> to his son and he told me he had stacks of documents, notes, and >>> papers his Dad had left that could contain useful information. I >>> think some of it was information that might relate to the alien >>> technology. I didn't ask what he had because I was not writing >>> about it. I just needed permission to use some quotes of his >>> Dad's in my book. The email address and phone number I had for >>> him have been changed. If you are interested in finding out if he >>> has anything that might be useful to your work, I can contact >>> Paola Harris and see if she can contact Phil, Jr. about it. >>> Paola had been a close friend of Col. Corso for many years. >>> http://www.paolaharris.it/reflections.htm >>> http://www.paolaharris.it/english.html >>> >>> Art >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 8/9/2005 3:53:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >>> sarfatti@pacbell.net writes:
>>>> Subj: Re: Jack, I Found Your Reverse Engineering Quote >>>> Date:8/9/2005 3:53:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time >>>> From:sarfatti@pacbell.net >>>> To:ANTIGRAY@cs.com >>>> Received from Internet: >>>> That says NOTHING ABOUT ALIEN HARDWARE!You made an unwarranted inference and you should have checked with me. HEORETICAL PHYSICISTS DO NOT PLAY WITH HARDWARE OF ANY KIND! WE PLAY WITH IDEAS! NGINEERS PLAY WITH HARDWARE! Y REVERSE ENGINEERING IS BASED ON INFORMATION NOT HARDWARE. I DON'T NEED NO HARDWARE! Other people do that!!!
On Aug 9, 2005, at 12:14 AM, ANTIGRAY@cs.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Jack, >>>>> After exhaustive research (I think I am going blind now) I >>>>> finally found what you had written that made me sure you had >>>>> been involved in reverse engineering. Here it is:
Let me clarify this last point. What I do claim is in my book "Destiny Matrix" and also in "The Star Gate Conspiracy." Boylan claimed I was shown a retrieved saucer in 1973. That is not true. I wish it were true.However, it is obvious I have been in semi- "black reverse engineering" for now nigh on 50 years starting with US Army Quarter Masters to Walter Breen's group to Herman Bondi at Cornell (Chief Scientist of British Ministry of Defence) and Hans Bethe and other Los Alamos weaponeers to Her Majesty's Atomic Energy Research Establishment at Harwell and Keith Brueckner's Jasons at UCSD, to the events of the mid 70's especially Werner Erhard and George Koopman, Francis Ford Coppola, Spielberg & Jacques Vallee to Richard Nixon's advisor Robert Dickson Crane to Institute for Contemporary Studies (created by Ed Meese and Cap Weinberger) to Harold Chipman Chief of Station of CIA down to Joe Firmage's ISSO to my current emerging solution of the "metric engineering" problem using the recently discovered "dark energy" with parallel universes next door floating in hyperspace. See also mention of me in KGB's Pavel Sudoplatov's "Special Tasks" paperback edition with intro by Robert Conquest and last but not least Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home Special Collector's Edition Disk 2 "Time Travel: The Art of the Possible"
See also all the .html files in http://qedcorp.com/book/psi/hitweapon.html
>>>>> The Army Quartermasters' duties are procurement and >>>>> distribution of materials. It sounded like you were saying that >>>>> you were not only doing the reverse engineering, but were in >>>>> the Army Quartermasters' pipeline for them to deliver aliens >>>>> parts to you to be back-engineered. :-) >> I was only about age 10 - 12 at that time. I think I may have met Colonel Corso back then. His photo rang a bell. But he would have been a lot younger back then! I can't be sure of course. One interesting thing to check would be any connections in late 1940s early 1950 between Corso and the Charles Lindbergh group that included Arthur Young, L. Ron. Hubbard, Andrija Puharich, Walter Breen, and especially Eugene McDermott.
>>>>> Now you see why I got confused as the wording and meaning >>>>> didn't seem ambiguous to me (and I am very careful about what I >>>>> write in front of knowledgeable people and semi-sapient >>>>> skeptics). I am not posting this information anywhere as it >>>>> will just encourage the lurking mental midget skeptics to start >>>>> attacking us again. >>>>> Hey, that is a fantastic car you have.
Yeah, I got from The Green Hornet. :-)
** From: Jack Sarfatti Date: 08/15/05 06:38:45 To: sonata Cc: Victor Martinez; Robert Sheaffer; Jaye Beldo; Ken Frazier; James Randi; Robert Wolf; Dick Farley; visions; ParadigmRG@aol. com; Susan Waitt; Stan Friedman; JE Oberg; JINSA Info; Dan Smith; Gordon Novel; Hal P; Russell Targ; UFOPhoto@aol.com; liberties@nytimes.com; Paul Zielinski; Ken Shoulders; DrSGreer@cs.com; Daniel Sheehan; caryn anscomb; mitc1615@bellsouth.net; Dennis; Freedom Fighter; Burt Brown; Christopher O'Brien; bruce maccabee; JKatra@hrpub.com; Stan Friedman; erickrieg@verizon.net; Gary Ford; Christen Warwick; john dering; Leslie Kean; Paola Harris; Jim Marrs; John Brandenburg; S-P Sirag; Stephen Bassett; nycstone@yahoo.com; Jim Deardorff; Colin Bennett; Dee777@aol.com; Gary Bekkum; ufocci@aol.com; HappyBob_714@yahoo.com; gschwart@aol.com; Cynthia LaRoche; The Message Company/Linda Leonard; barbvanderhoof@techline.com; CAdler@mindspring.com; CLefevre@oz.net; Caroline@GreenCafe.com; DarkEditor@aol.com; sol_dr@hotmail.com; Brian Josephson; Heinz; Jeffrey Mishlove; bankerquest@aol.com; Kim Burrafato; RicFlair2@gmx.de; red@star.mailbox.as; nick herbert; Patrick Moncelet; Roger Uchtmann; Rosanne Losee; Stephen Geller; woolsey_jim@bah.com; Cliff May; Ron Pandolfi; Kit Green; R.U.Sirius; wayne wilson; Lcarter0i@comcast.net; John Petersen; d14947 Gladstone; Jagdish Mann; Bill@ufomag.com; Magic; Hank Harrison; etdiplomat@aol.com; Warren Hinckle; Amara D.Angelica; Carol Rosin; Ed Komarek; IFCentral@aol.com; scott Smith; JRStarguy@aol.com; kitvaq5@yahoo.com; Becolli@mindspring.com; Bre Subject: Who was Phil Klass?
Mr. Phillip [sic] Klass ... is a member of the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal [CSICOP]. This committee has a much different view of unexplained phenomena than those groups we are working with as sponsors of "this conference [titled Exploring Unexplained Phenomena]. He was, in fact, quite adament [sic] in his position regarding the credibility of the conference presenters. Further, Mr. Klass has a personal feeling that the nature of this conference seriously questions the integrity of the United States Government. He feels that there is no scientific evidence to support the claims of the presenters and indicated that these organizations, by publicly questioning the government, lend support to the Communist movement."?http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc401.htm
Still, while CSICOP is immensely indulgent of even
the most
http://www.nicap.dabsol.co.uk/debunk2.htm
Philip J. Klass is today
considered to be the premier UFO skeptic alive. Klass, now fast
approaching 80 years of age, has slashed and burned his way across the
landscape for about 35 years. Over the now almost 15 years I have been
chasing the phenomenon, I have had a number of encounters with "kindly
old Phil." Now please, do not get the idea that I am billing myself as
the "know all and seen it all" guy, but I have been around the block
with a bunch of skeptics in all those years. In my encounters with
Klass, Oberg, Sheaffer, Shermer and others I have found that *without
exception they *all have taken a page from Robert Low, Project
Coordinator of the
Condon
Committee, and instead of attacking the cases -- they will attack the
witnesses. Slashing and burning the word, reputations and character of
people reporting on the UFO phenomenon. (In a humorous moment when I was
on Larry King Live debating Jim Oberg on the STS-48 shuttle UFO, Oberg
accused me of coming on the program to sell magazines when I asked him
if he was operating under any security restrictions. The "ad hominem
attack!) http://www.destinationspace.net/ufo/ufomag/ufomag1008.asp
Was there a Kurtz on John Mack?
William Cooper--the biggest whistleblower of them all--has not yet gone the way of Kennedy and Forrestal. The reason for this, Cooper says, is that this would show the world that what he says is true. All the conspirators can do at this point is harass and discredit him. The reason he is having conflicts with the larger UFO research community is that most UFO researchers, including Stanton Friedman, William Moore, Philip Klass, John Keel, Charles Berlitz, Budd Hopkins, Dr. J. Allen Hynek (now deceased) and even horror novelist Whitley Strieber, are really working for the CIA and the Office of Naval Intelligence. Even UFO Magazine, with its obviously slim budget, is financed and controlled by the CIA. And, though Jacques Vallee isn't mentioned in this particular blacklist, after one meeting and several phone conversations, he too joined the ranks of the accused. Rather than a UFO researcher, Cooper is a classic conspiracy theorist, who cloaks 19th century xenophobia in Space-Age guise. His book even contains a reprint of the entire text of "The Protocols of the Wise Men of Zion," with a prefatory note, explaining that references to "The Jews" should be replaced by "Illuminati" and the word "goyim" replaced with the word "cattle." Though Cooper is trying to leave the Jews out of his list of conspirators, he's not trying hard enough. Cooper had remarked to Vallee: There are four types of aliens. There are two kinds of Grays, including one race, not commonly seen, that has a large nose. Then there are the Nordic types, tall blond Aryans, and finally the Orange ones. They come from Orion, the Pleiades, Betelgeuse, Barnard's star and Zeta Reticuli. ... You know, I'm not a religious man. But if you look at the Bible... The Angels could be the Nordic types and the Grays could well be the demonic ones. After all, the Bible talks about a pact with the Devil in the last days, after Israel is reinstated. Leading to Armageddon. Rather than Jews that are controlling the world, it is the demonic big-nosed gray aliens from Zeta Reticuli. And rather than Aryans that will save mankind, it will be tall blond angelic beings from the Pleiades. http://www.think-aboutit.com/ufo/william_cooper_exhibit.htm
I do think that Klass has a point about the Old Commies using the UFO Movement. I saw that clearly in the Message Company Santa Fe Meeting late April 2005 with S. Greer's anti-American call to the rabble to take to the streets. This garbling of lunatic conspiracy theories with UFOs is unfortunate now that we know the physics of how the alien saucers fly. On the other hand The skeptics like the late Klass are lousy physicists. They don't know what they are talking about. The real saucer physics is in?http://qedcorp.com/APS/zpf2005.pdf
On Aug 14, 2005, at 9:58 PM, Doc Savage wrote:
You know what's wrong with The Knaviary? They? got no Klass!
On Aug 14, 2005, at 9:53 PM, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
Thanks Doc for passing this one on. Very funny. ;-)
One the one side we have The Aviary. On the other side we have The Knaviary.
Who is in the Knaviary?
Phill Klass (departed) Ken Frazier Robert Sheaffer The other one who runs "The Skeptic" I forget his name. who else? Who am I leaving out?
On Aug 14, 2005, at 9:42 PM, Doc Savage wrote:
Two sides to every story - at least. I have no idea at all about any of this of course. I never met Klass.
On Aug 14, 2005, at 9:05 PM, sonata wrote:
Nonsense: Phil Klass was attacking me back in 1986 Thanx Roberto for sharing the attached with the entire group ?? ?
Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I said nothing at all about Klass either way. I simply forwarded a message sent to me. I did not write it.
Learn how to read e-mail Sheaffer. Rick Doty wrote the words below not me.
"Phil Klass was one of the best UFO skeptics because he kept everyone on their toes.? However, he was also a liar.? He manufactured stories about people, who were UFO believers or about incidents that occurred.? Klass passed a few lies about me over the years.? I confronted Klass on two occasions years ago about them.? He never would debate the issues. ? Few knew that Klass was suspected of molesting a child in the 60s.? He was never charged because the child never would testify or provide truth to the Metro DC police.?This information came from John Schneider, a retired Metro DC police officer, who argued against Klass on a number of occasions about?UFOs.? ? Oh well, Klass and some will truly miss him and others will be glad he's gone.? ? Richard Doty"
See it's signed by "Richard Doty" who I am told is or was a cop? Right? I guess this all is now De-Klassified? ;-)
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