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Subject: 9/11 Bombshell: Four in 9/11 Plot Were Tied to al-Qaeda Cell in'00!

 

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9/11 BOMBSHELL: FOUR TERRORISTS IN 9/11 PLOT WERE IDENTIFIED NEARLY 1

YEAR EARLIER IN 2000 AS A TERRORIST CELL BY A SPECIAL ABOVE-TOP-SECRET

MILITARY INTELLIGENCE UNIT CALLED 'ABLE DANGER' / INFORMATION WAS

IGNORED BECAUSE INS HAD GRANTED ALL 4 HIJACKERS VALID VISAS! / HELPS

FUEL CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT BUSH's NEOCONS "PURPOSELY ALLOWED 9/11 TO

HAPPEN" AS AN EXCUSE TO WAGE A  2-FRONT WAR IN AFGHANISTAN [for their

natural gas pipeline] AND IRAQ [to secure the world's 2nd largest oil

reserves] AND POUR $$$ INTO BUSH's MILITARY DEFENSE CONTRACTOR/CAMPAIGN

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By Douglas Jehl, N Y Times Staff Writer, Tuesday, August 9, 2005 / Front

Page Splash, all edtions

 

 

WASHINGTON, Aug. 9 – More than a year before the Sept. 11 attacks, a

small, HIGHLY CLASSIFIED MILITARY INTELLIGENCE UNIT identified Mohammed Atta and three other future hijackers as LIKELY MEMBERS OF A CELL of Al Qaeda operating in the United States, according to a former defense Intelligence official and a Republican member of Congress.

 

In the summer of 2000, the military team, known as Able Danger, prepared a chart that included visa photographs of the four men and recommended to the military's Special Operations Command that the information be shared with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the congressman, Representative Curt Weldon of Pennsylvania, and the former intelligence official said Monday.

 

The recommendation was rejected and the information was not shared, they said, apparently at least in part because Mr. Atta, and the others were in the United States ON VALID ENTRY VISAS. Under American law, United States citizens and green-card holders may not be singled out in intelligence-collection operations by the military or intelligence

agencies. That protection does not extend to visa holders, but Mr.

Weldon and the former intelligence official said it might have

reinforced a sense of discomfort common before Sept. 11 about sharing

intelligence information with a law enforcement agency.

 

A former spokesman for the Sept. 11 commission, Al Felzenberg, confirmed that members of its staff, including Philip Zelikow, the executive director, were told about the program on an overseas trip in October 2003 that included stops in Afghanistan and Pakistan. But Mr. Felzenberg said the briefers did not mention Mr. Atta's name.

 

The report produced by the commission last year does not mention the

episode. Mr. Weldon first spoke publicly about the episode in June, in a

little-noticed speech on the House floor and in an interview with The

Times-Herald in Norristown, Pa. The matter resurfaced on Monday in a

report by GSN: Government Security News, which is published every two weeks and covers domestic-security issues. The GSN report was based on accounts provided by Mr. Weldon and the same former intelligence official, who was interviewed on Monday by The New York Times in Mr. Weldon's office.

 

In a telephone interview from his home in Pennsylvania, Mr. Weldon said

he was basing his assertions on similar ones by at least three other

former intelligence officers with direct knowledge of the project, and

said that some had first called the episode to his attention shortly

after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

 

The account is the first assertion that Mr. Atta, an Egyptian who became

the lead hijacker in the plot, was identified by any American government

agency as a potential threat before the Sept. 11 attacks. Among the 19

hijackers, only Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi had been identified as potential threats by the Central Intelligence Agency before the summer of 2000, and information about them was not provided to the

F.B.I. until the spring of 2001.

 

Mr. Weldon has long been a champion of the kind of data-mining analysis that was the basis for the work of the Able Danger team.

 

The former intelligence official spoke on the condition of anonymity,

saying he did not want to jeopardize political support and the possible

financing for future data-mining operations by speaking publicly. He

said the team had been established by the Special Operations Command in 1999, under a classified directive issued by Gen. Hugh Shelton, then the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to assemble information about Al Qaeda networks around the world.

 

"Ultimately, Able Danger was going to give decision makers options for

taking out Al Qaeda targets," the former defense intelligence official

said.

 

He said that he delivered the chart in summer 2000 to the Special

Operations Command headquarters in Tampa, Fla., and said that it had

been based on information from unclassified sources and government

records, including those of the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

 

"We knew these were bad guys, and we wanted to do something about them, "the former intelligence official said.  The unit, which relied heavily on data-mining techniques, was modeled after those first established by Army intelligence at the Land Information Warfare Assessment Center, now known as the Information Dominance Center, at Fort Belvoir, Va., the official said.

 

Mr. Weldon is an outspoken figure who is a vice chairman of both the

House Armed Services Committee and the House Homeland Security

Committee. He said he had recognized the significance of the episode

only recently, when he contacted members of the military intelligence

team as part of research for his book, "Countdown to Terror: The

Top-Secret Information That Could Prevent the Next Terrorist Attack on America and How the C.I.A. Has Ignored It."

 

Mr. Weldon's book prompted one veteran C.I.A. case officer to strongly

dispute the reliability of one Iranian source cited in the book, saying

the Iranian "was a waste of my time and resources."

 

Mr. Weldon said that he had discussed the Able Danger episode with

Representative Peter Hoekstra, the Michigan Republican who is chairman

of the House Intelligence Committee, and that at least two Congressional

committees were looking into the episode.

 

In the interview on Monday, Mr. Weldon said he had been aware of the

episode since shortly after the Sept. 11 attack, when members of the

team first brought it to his attention. He said he had told Stephen J.

Hadley, then the deputy national security adviser, about it in a

conversation in September or October 2001, and had been surprised when the Sept. 11 commission report made no mention of the operation.

 

Col. Samuel Taylor, a spokesman for the military's Special Operations

Command, said no one at the command now had any knowledge of the Able Danger program, its mission or its findings. If the program existed,

Colonel Taylor said, it was probably a highly classified "special access

program" on which only a few military personnel would have been briefed.

 

During the interview in Mr. Weldon's office, the former defense

intelligence official showed a floor-sized chart depicting Al Qaeda

networks around the world that he said was a larger, more detailed

version similar to the one prepared by the Able Danger team in the

summer of 2000.

 

He said the original chart, like the new one, had included the names and

photographs of Mr. Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi, as well as Mr. Mihdhar and Mr. Hazmi, who were identified as members of what was described as an American-based "Brooklyn" cell, as one of five such Al Qaeda cells

around the world. The official said the link to Brooklyn was meant as a term of art rather than to be interpreted literally, saying that the unit had produced no firm evidence linking the men to the borough of New York City but that a computer analysis seeking to establish patterns in links between the four men had found that "the software put them all together in Brooklyn."

 

According to the commission report, Mr. Mihdhar and Mr. Hazmi were first identified in late 1999 or 2000 by the C.I.A. as Qaeda members who might be involved in a terrorist operation. They were tracked from Yemen to Malaysia before their trail was lost in Thailand. Neither man was put on a State Department watch list before they flew to Los Angeles in early 2000. The F.B.I. was not warned about them until the spring of 2001, and no efforts to track them were made until August 2001.

 

Neither Mr. Shehhi nor Mr. Atta was identified by the American

intelligence agencies as a potential threat, the commission report said.

Mr. Shehhi arrived in Newark on a flight from Brussels on May 29, 2000,

and Mr. Atta arrived in Newark from Prague on June 3 that year.

 

The former intelligence official said the first Able Danger report

identified all four men as members of a "Brooklyn" cell, and was

produced within two months after Mr. Atta arrived in the United States.

The former intelligence official said he was among a group that briefed

Mr. Zelikow and at least three other members of the Sept. 11 commission staff about Able Danger when they visited the Afghanistan-Pakistan region in October 2003.

 

The official said he had explicitly mentioned Mr. Atta as a member of a

Qaeda cell in the United States. He said the staff encouraged him to

call the commission when he returned to Washington at the end of the

year. When he did so, the ex-official said, the calls were not returned.

Mr. Felzenberg, the former Sept. 11 commission spokesman, said on Monday that he had talked with some of the former staff members who

participated in the briefing.

 

"They all say that they were not told anything about a Brooklyn cell,"

Mr. Felzenberg said. "They were told about the Pentagon operation. They were not told about the Brooklyn cell. They said that if the briefers

had mentioned anything that startling, it would have gotten their

attention."

 

As a result of the briefing, he said, the commission staff filed

document requests with the Pentagon for information about the program.

The Pentagon complied, he said, adding that the staff had not hidden

anything from the commissioners.

 

"The commissioners were certainly told of the document requests and what the findings were," Mr. Felzenberg said.

 

Philip Shenon and Eric Schmitt contributed reporting for this article.

 

© Copyright 2005 The New York Times Company

 

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FAMED AND HATED UFO DEBUNKER AND SKEPTIC PHILIP J KLASS PASSES AWAY,....

 

joberg@houston.rr.com

 

Date: Wednesday, 10 August 2005, at 1:06 p.m.

 

From NADYA (Klass' wife):

 

"I regret to inform you that my husband, Philip J. Klass, passed away on

August 9 in Merritt Island, Florida."

 

Phil was a friend and colleague for more than thirty years, an

award-winning technical journalist specializing in avionics, for

'Aviation Week' magazine. His iron will carried him through his last

difficult years against physical hardships brought on by age and medical

errors.

 

He had a bulldog persistence in digging into stories most journalists

considered too technical, too difficult, or even too un-researchable,

both in military and civilian aviation and space systems,

and in his pastime of 'UFO stories.'

 

He aroused fierce enmity in many circles, most of it a credit to his

piercing intellect and acerbic wit, and if one is best measured by the

enemies one makes, Phil had even more reason to be proud. I was proud of

him and proud to be his friend.

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http://www.destinationspace.net/ufo/ufomag/ufomag1008.asp

 

EDITORIAL: SKEPTICS OR DEBUNKERS?

By Don Ecker, Director of Research

From The Desk of UFO MAGAZINE

Dateline: October 7, 2000

[Excerpt]

 

Philip J. Klass is today considered to be the premier UFO skeptic alive.

Klass, now fast approaching 80 years of age, has slashed and burned his

way across the landscape for about 35 years. Over the now almost 15

years I have been chasing the phenomenon, I have had a number of

encounters with "kindly old Phil."

 

Now please, do not get the idea that I am billing myself as the "know

all and seen it all" guy, but I have been around the block with a bunch

of skeptics in all those years. In my encounters with Klass, Oberg,

Sheaffer, Shermer and others I have found that *without exception they

*all have taken a page from Robert Low, Project Coordinator of the

Condon Committee, and instead of attacking the cases -- they will attack

the witnesses.

 

Slashing and burning the word, reputations and character of people

reporting on the UFO phenomenon. (In a humorous moment when I was on

Larry King Live debating Jim Oberg on the STS-48 shuttle UFO, Oberg

accused me of coming on the program to sell magazines when I asked him

if he was operating under any security restrictions.

 

(The "ad hominem attack!)

 

I do not have either the time or space to give you a litany of each

skeptic I have named, so this month I will simply zero in on one, Phil

Klass.

 

Klass entered the UFO scene around 1966. A former editor with Aviation

Week & Space Technology, he would seem to be an excellent choice to

examine the UFO subject and present an honest and critical eye on some

of the more difficult UFO cases. Alas, that was not to be. After Klass

wrote his first UFO book

 

"UFOs-Identified" where he claimed UFOs were anomalous, but not alien,

Klass theorized that UFOs were caused by ball lighting and free floating

plasmas. Even the University of Colorado study (Condon) found this

theory to be scientifically unsustainable. Dr. James McDonald, an

atmospheric physicist and proponent of legitimate UFO study, tore

Klass's arguments apart using scientific reasoning and facts.

 

Klass then decided McDonald must be dangerous and dealt with, after all

he was "pro-UFO." McDonald was working for the Office of Naval Research

who funded his trip to Australia to conduct cloud-physics studies, and

Klass went on a rampage at ONR writing letters demanding to know who

funded McDonald to conduct UFO research in Australia, and later trips

McDonald was to take to Europe and the USSR. Klass also enlisted other

sympathetic journalists to assist him in a campaign that lasted 1 and

one half years.

 

The ONR conducted an audit of McDonald that cleared him, but then cut

McDonald off from any further grants. They were afraid of further bad

press. At this point I would ask the Skeptical Inquirer about rational

and scientific open mindedness.

 

Klass's position is such that if anyone is willing to propose that some

cases might possibly be explained as off world technology, then they are

only seeking celebrity status or attempting to make money. At this

point, Klass then zeroes in on the character of the researcher. In 1983,

Klass began an attack directed against the University of Nebraska

because they were sponsoring a UFO conference.

 

In a conversation with the university's administrator Klass charged that

"ufologists `seek what the Soviet Union does, to convey to the public

that our government can not be trusted, and I resent it as an American

citizen." He equated UFO research with communism, as un-patriotic and

anti-American.

 

Klass went on to phone faculty and further claimed that for the

university to sponsor such a conference (UFOs) was comparable to the

dilemma they would face if the American Nazi Party wanted to hold a

conference there. Later CSICOP spokesman Mark Plummer wrote that he

found nothing excessive in Klass´s claims.

I had personal experience with Klass on two different occasions when he

displayed his fanatic anti-UFO sentiments.

 

In 1992, I was invited to debate Klass

in Denver, sponsored by ParaNet and MICAP. During the debate we began to

discuss the Frederick Valentich case. This was a case of a young

Australian pilot who disappeared in 1978 after radioing that he was

being approached by a huge UFO. (The RAAF became involved in this case,

but no aircraft or body was ever located.) Klass began by calling

Valentich a "drug smuggler."

 

I was not about to allow him to get away with that and demanded he prove

his assertion. His proof? Valentich had four life preservers in his

aircraft. Klass has operated on the assumption that if the case cannot

be discarded because the claims can't be disproved, then it *must be a

hoax because UFOs simply cannot be real!

 

The next run in with Klass happened near the end of January 1995. I had

invited Klass on my two hour, weekly radio program UFOs Tonite!. During

the program Klass had threatened to hang up when I challenged him about

his assertion that Major Jesse Marcel, when picking up debris from the

Roswell Incident, was trying to claim a $3,000 reward offered by a

newspaper for proof of a flying saucer.

 

Klass got very testy when I challenged him on the statement that Marcel,

the intelligence officer of the most elite military group in the world,

would attempt collect a reward. (By the way, there is no proof of such a

reward being offered that I was ever able to locate.) He threatened to

hang up at that point. Later during the program we were discussing the

1952 overflights of Washington DC, when Klass tried to suggest the Air

Force was not worried because they took over an hour to send up jet

interceptors.

 

I informed Klass the reason was that the local Air Force bases were

repairing runways and the jets had to be flown in from Delaware. (I had

the proof including a statement by Al Chop who was then the Air Force

liaison with its Blue Book operation) Klass became enraged and began

"screaming bullshit" over the air. When I expressed my indignation to

him, he became embarrassed and hung up his telephone mid show!

 

(Another time Klass "lost it" and began screaming profanities to a

national audience occurred about 1993 on the Larry King show. Klass

appeared with Travis Walton and Mike Rogers, and Rogers accused Klass of

being a government agent. Klass in a "klassic display" of temper

screamed, `MIKE ROGERS!, YOU´RE A GODDAMNED LIAR!")

 

This is the rational thought demonstrated by the likes of the Skeptical

Inquirer and CSICOP that I have encountered.

 

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Subject: "Alien abductees" provide clues to repressed, recovered memories

 

Part 1: UFO author and researcher Paul Stonehill makes a response to the

attached article, "Alien abductees provide clues to repressed, recovered

memories,"  in the Oct 31, '02 issue of the Harvard Gazette.

 

Part 2: Dr Susan A Clancy, a post doctoral research fellow at Harvard

University, makes her position known – in her own words – in an

eye-opening interview with the campus newspaper, "The Harvard Gazette"

on Halloween 2002 in their October 31 edition.

 

Dr Clancy's book on alien abductions entitled, ABDUCTED: HOW PEOPLE COME

TO BELIEVE THEY WERE KIDNAPPED BY ALIENS is due out October 2005.

 

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From: PAUL STONEHILL

 

rurcla@hotmail.com

 

Date: Sunday, Aug 14, 2005, 9:38 p.m.

(PDT+7)

 

To: VICTOR MARTINEZ

 

Subject: Rebuttal to: "ABDUCTED: HOW PEOPLE COME TO BELIEVE THEY WERE

KIDNAPPED BY ALIENS."

 

 

Thank you, Victor. I stand by my previous comments, unless Dr. Clancy's

book explains UFO abduction experiences of those who have not been

exposed to the American pop culture. Perhaps she would be interested in

conducting a truly comprehensive, world-wide research.

 

Throughout my research I have found a number of similarities regarding

UFO sightings and related experiences in Russian (as in

pre-revolutionary Russian Empire), Soviet and Western reports. Yet the

populations had been separated by more than the Iron Curtain; there have

been tremendous cultural differences.

 

But what of similar reports that come from Japan and Spain? It is

important to look at all the angles when it comes to the research of the

UFO Phenomenon; it is truly a world-wide phenomenon. Some day I hope a

way will be found to juxtapose UFO reports from Brazil, Australia,

Nepal, Ukraine, China, Mongolia, and the United States.

 

We will start seeing PATTERNS, as I have begun to discover when reading

and researching Soviet/Russian cases. I could quickly do so due to my

knowledge of Russian and Ukrainian languages. But nowadays, its much

easier for serious researchers to contact those who conduct similar

research in other countries; finding those who speak English, the

primary language of modern communications, is not a problem.

 

Perhaps the review of Dr. Clancy's book by Benedict Carey has generated

something more than just critcism; perhaps people now realize that

gullible attempts to "explain away" this very complex UFO phenomenon are

futile.

 

What is NEEDED IS A TRUE INTERNATIONAL EFFORT. At some levels, there has

been an exchange of data and information; I could point to Ukraine's

RIAP; Dr. Haines's Federation undertaking; MUFON's international

outreach; the Russian version of NEXUS Magazine; FATE Magazine's

coverage of paranormal phenomena in Asia, the Americas and Europe;

international conferences, and much more.

 

The Internet is a tremendous resource. Look what it has wrought as a

response to your posting! Let us use it even more. Who knows, your

postings might reach some philanthropist who will underwrite an

international research.

 

I will appreciate if you could post this comment.

 

PAUL STONEHILL –

author of: THE SOVIET UFO FILES ('98)

and UFO/USSR (2005) with Philip Mantle

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From: Dr SUSAN A CLANCY, Post Doctoral Research Fellow, Harvard

University

 

To: VICTOR MARTINEZ

 

Subject: Rebuttal to: Abducted: People Come to Believe Were Kidnapped by

Aliens

 

Hi there:

 

Let me make sure I understand correctly. There are responses to Benedict

Carey's review of my book (and not the book itself or the

scientific/published research that preceded it)?

 

Perhaps these letters should be sent to Benedict Carey. Until then,

people should read the book before getting too "worked up" -- many of

them might feel differently after doing so. For example, I never have

and still don't believe that sleep paralysis "explains" alien

abductions.

 

Thank you for your e-mail.

 

Susan A. Clancy, Ph.D.

Post Doctoral Research Fellow

Dept. of Psychology

Harvard University

clancy@wjh.harvard.edu